{"id":5742,"date":"2020-02-19T19:25:40","date_gmt":"2020-02-19T16:25:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/?p=5742"},"modified":"2020-04-11T11:52:46","modified_gmt":"2020-04-11T08:52:46","slug":"facturi-de-avans-facturi-de-stornare-a-avansului-si-facturi-cu-valoare-zero","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/2020\/02\/19\/facturi-de-avans-facturi-de-stornare-a-avansului-si-facturi-cu-valoare-zero\/","title":{"rendered":"Microfact, Ecofact, xFact, Carbon \u0219i Graphite &#8211; Facturi de avans, facturi de stornare a avansului si facturi cu valoare zero"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><em>Anton Kovacs<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Numai \u00een ultima s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 m-au sunat dou\u0103 persoane care doreau s\u0103 fac\u0103 c\u00e2te o factur\u0103 cu valoarea 0 (zero) dar nimeni nu i-a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat cum s\u0103 fac\u0103 acest lucru.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">De-a lungul timpului am fost \u00eentrebat de sute de ori \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu acest subiect, nu \u00een\u021beleg de ce oamenii \u0103\u0219tia nu \u00ee\u0219i \u00eentreab\u0103 contabilii cum s\u0103 fac\u0103 astfel de lucruri, probabil c\u0103 le este fric\u0103 de ei, sau poate contabilii \u00eei taxeaz\u0103 pentru r\u0103spunsuri \u00een timp ce la noi le primesc gratis<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">In primul caz era vorba despre cineva care primise un avans, a f\u0103cut o factur\u0103 pentru avansul \u00eencasat, ulterior s-a prestat serviciul a c\u0103rui valoare a fost egal\u0103 cu cea a avansului \u0219i \u00een final contabila i-a spus s\u0103 fac\u0103 o factur\u0103 cu valoare zero unde la denumire s\u0103 fie \u00eenscris\u0103 denumirea serviciului prestat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Omul este compozitor, unul din marii compozitori ai \u021b\u0103rii, probabil nu are nici talente contabile nici de facturist\u0103, a tot \u00eencercat s\u0103 fac\u0103 o factur\u0103 la care ba a scris zero la cantitate, ba a scris zero la pre\u021b, a scris \u0219i zero la am\u00e2ndou\u0103, oricum nu i-a reu\u0219it, factura refuza s\u0103 se lase validat\u0103. <span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Si avea dreptate \u0219i s\u0103raca factur\u0103, dac\u0103 cantitatea este zero \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 nu ai v\u00e2ndut nimic, dac\u0103 pui zero la pre\u021b \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 ce ai v\u00e2ndut nu valoreaz\u0103 nimic, ceea ce nu se poate. In ambele cazuri nu este nevoie s\u0103 faci o factur\u0103.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">S\u0103 desen\u0103m pu\u021bin toat\u0103 povestea:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">1. Facem factura de avans, a c\u0103rei valoare este egal\u0103 cu suma primit\u0103 de la client, s\u0103 spunem 11900 de lei.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">La denumire scriem c\u0103 este vorba despre un avans. Pentru c\u0103 este vorba despre un avans, nu ceva care poate fi num\u0103rat, c\u00e2nt\u0103rit sau m\u0103surat, cantitatea este ceva care nu se potrive\u0219te acolo, dar trebuie totu\u0219i s\u0103 facem \u00een a\u0219a fel \u00eenc\u00e2t \u201caritmetica facturii\u201d s\u0103 aib\u0103 coeren\u021b\u0103, respectiv valoarea s\u0103 reprezinte produsul dintre cantitate \u0219i pre\u021b (Valoare = cantitate x pre\u021b). De aceea vom \u00eenscrie la cantitate 1.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Dac\u0103 cantitatea este 1 pre\u021bul va fi valoarea \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bit\u0103 la 1, deci la pre\u021b \u00eenscriem pre\u021bul unitar f\u0103r\u0103 TVA. Complet\u0103m \u0219i TVA-ul \u0219i am terminat factura, valoarea acesteia este exact valoarea banilor primi\u021bi.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.infokam.eu\/microfact\/microfact.php\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"Factura1\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Factura1.jpg\" alt=\"Factura1\" width=\"600\" height=\"532\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Dup\u0103 un timp prest\u0103m serviciul \u0219i constat\u0103m c\u0103 valoarea \u00eencasat\u0103 \u00een avans acoper\u0103 pre\u021bul serviciului.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Aparent nu ar mai trebui s\u0103 facem nici o factur\u0103, omul ne-a dat banii, noi i-am dat factura, toat\u0103 lumea e fericit\u0103.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Problema este \u00eens\u0103 c\u0103 pe factura ini\u021bial\u0103 nu scrie ce i-am v\u00e2ndut sau ce serviciu i-am prestat, acolo scria \u201cAVANS\u201d. Dar clientul nu a cump\u0103rat un \u201cAVANS\u201d, el a cump\u0103rat altceva.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">De aceea ar trebui s\u0103-i facem o factur\u0103 exact cum a spus contabila, la denumire s\u0103 fie descris serviciul prestat, de exemplu \u201cINCHIRIERE STUDIOU INREGISTRARI 200 ORE\u201d, iar valoarea total\u0103 a facturii s\u0103 fie zero.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Dar avem dou\u0103 probleme, ca s\u0103 facem o factur\u0103 cu valoarea zero fie pre\u021bul unitar fie cantitatea ar trebui s\u0103 fie zero, pe de alt\u0103 parte din acea factur\u0103 nu va rezulta c\u00e2t cost\u0103 o or\u0103 de studiou.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">De aceea vom face \u00een urm\u0103torul fel:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">1, Storn\u0103m avansul primit, pentru ca din contabilitatea clientului s\u0103 nu rezulte c\u0103 a cump\u0103rat un serviciu sau un produs care se nume\u0219te \u201cAVANS\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Stornare \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 dac\u0103 am facturat ini\u021bial un avans cu pre\u021bul de 10000 de lei, acum vom factura minus un avans cu pre\u021bul de 10000 de lei. Un avans adunat cu minus un avans ne d\u0103 un total de zero avansuri (1Avans + (\u20131Avans) = 0)<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><em>Aten\u021bie, \u00een cea de-a doua factur\u0103 vom factura minus un avans cu pre\u021bul de 10000 de lei, nu un avans care cost\u0103 minus 10000 de lei, pentru c\u0103 \u00een felul \u0103sta clientul ar avea dou\u0103 avansuri, unul care cost\u0103 10000 de lei \u0219i altul cost\u0103 minus 10000 de lei. Chiar dac\u0103 valorile se anuleaz\u0103 reciproc, cantit\u0103\u021bile ar r\u0103m\u00e2ne neschimbate. Pe de alt\u0103 parte nimic nu poate s\u0103 coste \u201cminus 10000 lei\u201d. Am f\u0103cut aceast\u0103 men\u021biune pentru c\u0103 am observat c\u0103 aceast\u0103 gre\u0219eal\u0103 grosolan\u0103 este f\u0103cut\u0103 de nenum\u0103rate persoane, unele chiar cu preten\u021bii.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Facturare-corect_gresit.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"Facturare corect_gresit\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Facturare-corect_gresit_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"Facturare corect_gresit\" width=\"600\" height=\"168\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">2. Inscriem pe factur\u0103 denumirea serviciului prestat, unitatea de m\u0103sur\u0103, cantitatea \u0219i pre\u021bul.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Deoarece, a\u0219a cum am spus mai sus, valoarea avansului a acoperit \u00een \u00eentregime pre\u021bul serviciilor, valoarea noii facturi va trebui s\u0103 fie egal\u0103 cu valoarea serviciilor total\u0103 din care se scade valoarea avansului, adic\u0103 zero (Faloare factur\u0103 = Valoare Sv \u2013 Valoare Av = 0)<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">S\u0103 desen\u0103m:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.infokam.eu\/microfact\/microfact.php\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"Factura2\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Factura2.png\" alt=\"Factura2\" width=\"600\" height=\"558\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Ce s-ar fi \u00eent\u00e2mplat dac\u0103 valoarea avansului nu ar fi acoperit \u00eentreaga valoare a serviciului, de exemplu dac\u0103 avansul a fost tot de 10000 + TVA, dar valoarea serviciilor prestate a fost de 15000 + TVA?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Foarte simplu, la fel ca \u00een exemplul precedent, am fi stornat cei 10000 de lei+TVA primi\u021bi ca avans, iar la cea de-a dou\u0103 pozi\u021bie am fi \u00eenscris tot valoarea serviciilor, dar care de aceast\u0103 dat\u0103 este de 15000 + TVA.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Dup\u0103 cum putem vedea valoarea facturii reprezint\u0103 exact suma pe care clientul trebuie s\u0103 o mai pl\u0103teasc\u0103, respectiv 5000 + TVA<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.infokam.eu\/microfact\/microfact.php\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"Factura3\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Factura3.jpg\" alt=\"Factura3\" width=\"600\" height=\"559\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Alte facturi cu valoare zero.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Am \u00eent\u00e2lnit situa\u021bia \u00een care cineva dorea s\u0103 fac\u0103 o factur\u0103 c\u0103tre un client, cu ni\u0219te produse promo\u021bionale, dar pentru c\u0103 era vorba despre o promo\u021bie nu dorea s\u0103-i ia bani.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Sau poatre vreau eu s\u0103-I dau cuiva cadou un <a href=\"http:\/\/www.infokam.eu\/microfact\/microfact.php\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">program de facturare<\/span><\/a> dar omului \u00eei trebuie \u0219i o factur\u0103 pentru ca s\u0103 nu-l acuz c\u00e2ndva c\u0103 \u00eemi folose\u0219te programul ilegal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">A\u0219\u0103 cum am spus mai sus, nu putem face o factur\u0103 cu pre\u021bul zero, ceva de genul PROGRAM FACTURARE 1 x 0 lei = zero lei.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Nu exist\u0103 nimic care s\u0103 coste zero lei, asta este o abera\u021bie, pur \u0219i simplu nu se poate, p\u00e2n\u0103 \u0219i moartea are un pre\u021b, o pl\u0103te\u0219ti cu via\u021ba.<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\">Dar putem s\u0103 oferim un discount egal cu valoarea m\u0103rfurilor \u201cdonate\u201d, \u0219i astfel valoarea facturii va ajunge s\u0103 fie zero, adic\u0103 clientul nu ne va datora nimic, pentru c\u0103 asta \u00eenseamn\u0103 discount, nu c\u0103 ceea ce \u00eeti dau nu valoreaz\u0103 nimic, ci c\u0103 valoarea r\u0103m\u00e2ne aceea\u0219i dar nu numai trebuie s\u0103 \u00eemi pl\u0103te\u0219ti, par\u021bial sau integral serviciul sau bunul respectiv:<\/span><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.infokam.eu\/microfact\/microfact.php\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" title=\"Factura4\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Factura4.jpg\" alt=\"Factura4\" width=\"600\" height=\"539\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_donations&amp;business=office%40infokam.ro&amp;currency_code=EUR&amp;source=url\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"paypal7\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/paypal7.jpg\" alt=\"paypal7\" width=\"244\" height=\"89\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Revolut_logo_thumb-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" title=\"Revolut_logo_thumb\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/Revolut_logo_thumb_thumb.jpg\" alt=\"Revolut_logo_thumb\" width=\"244\" height=\"98\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Tags: Carbon, Graphite, Microfact, Ecofact, xFAct<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Anton Kovacs Numai \u00een ultima s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103 m-au sunat dou\u0103 persoane care doreau s\u0103 fac\u0103 c\u00e2te o factur\u0103 cu valoarea 0 (zero) dar nimeni nu i-a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat cum s\u0103 fac\u0103 acest lucru. De-a lungul timpului am fost \u00eentrebat de sute de ori \u00een leg\u0103tur\u0103 cu acest subiect, nu \u00een\u021beleg de ce oamenii \u0103\u0219tia nu \u00ee\u0219i \u00eentreab\u0103 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[139],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5742","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-manuale-de-utilizare"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5742","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5742"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5742\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5892,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5742\/revisions\/5892"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5742"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5742"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5742"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}