{"id":5482,"date":"2019-06-19T17:02:48","date_gmt":"2019-06-19T14:02:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/?p=5482"},"modified":"2019-06-19T17:36:19","modified_gmt":"2019-06-19T14:36:19","slug":"o-ntmplare-cu-ing-bank","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/2019\/06\/19\/o-ntmplare-cu-ing-bank\/","title":{"rendered":"O &icirc;nt&acirc;mplare cu ING Bank"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Vineri Clientul solicit\u0103 Furnizorului o factur\u0103 proforma.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">10 minute dup\u0103 aceea Clientul face plata proformei \u0219i trimite Furnizorului confirmarea pl\u0103\u021bii.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Furnizorul verific\u0103 copia OP-ului \u0219i constat\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een loc de 260 de lei clientul K a pl\u0103tit 26000 de lei.<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/Capture-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"297\" title=\"Capture\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" alt=\"Capture\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/Capture_thumb-1.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">In secunda 2 Furnizorul \u00eel anun\u021b\u0103 pe Client de eroarea comis\u0103 \u0219i \u00eei spune s\u0103 ia leg\u0103tura cu propria banc\u0103 pentru a bloca plata.<br \/>\n\u00cei explic\u0103 \u0219i c\u0103 are o popire \u0219i c\u0103 plata trebuie neap\u0103rat oprit\u0103 pentru c\u0103 altfel suma va ajunge \u00een contul ANAF \u0219i astfel Furnizorul va fi pus \u00een imposibilitate de a \u00eenapoia \u00eentr-un termen rezonabil banii vira\u021bi gre\u0219it.<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Furnizorul vrea s\u0103-\u0219i pl\u0103teasc\u0103 datoriile, dar vrea s\u0103 fac\u0103 acest lucru din banii s\u0103i, nu din ai altora.<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Era ora 14, au trecut 12 minute de la \u00eenregistrarea ordinului de plat\u0103 gre\u0219it.<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Clientul \u00ee\u0219i anunt\u0103 imediat \u00een scris banca, Raiffeisen Bank, i se spune s\u0103 stea lini\u0219tit c\u0103 totul se rezolv\u0103.<br \/>Furnizorul anun\u021b\u0103 \u0219i el propria banc\u0103, ING Bank, face o sesizare \u00eenregistrat\u0103 cu num\u0103rul 14140707, explic\u00e2ndu-I operatoarei \u00eentreaga nebunie.<br \/> Si aceast\u0103 doamn\u0103 spune c\u0103 \u00een momentul \u00een care banii vor intra \u00een cont ace\u0219tia vor fi \u00eenapoia\u021bi Clientului<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/text-separator-22-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"240\" height=\"29\" title=\"text-separator-22\" style=\"border: 0px currentcolor; border-image: none; margin-right: auto; margin-left: auto; float: none; display: block; background-image: none;\" alt=\"text-separator-22\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/text-separator-22_thumb-1.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">In acest moment at\u00e2t Furnizorul c\u00e2t \u0219i Clientul au toate motivele s\u0103 fie lini\u0219ti\u021bi. <\/font><\/a><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">In primul r\u00e2nd datorit\u0103 faptului c\u0103 ambele b\u0103nci au fost anun\u021bate de eroarea comis\u0103 \u0219i acestea au dat asigur\u0103ri c\u0103 problema va fi rezolvat\u0103.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">Pe de alt\u0103 parte, de regul\u0103 \u00een cazul viramentelor interbancare efectuate dup\u0103 ora 12 sumele se transfer\u0103 cel mai devreme \u00een ziua urm\u0103toare,<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">Un alt lucru lini\u0219titor este c\u0103, din propriile lor afirma\u021bii, politica ING Bank este s\u0103 nu repartizeze popririle dec\u00e2t dup\u0103 aprobarea clientului.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">Si nu \u00een ultimul r\u00e2nd, cu to\u021bii ne imagin\u0103m c\u0103 o banc\u0103 de m\u0103rimea ING Bank are elaborate proceduri eficiente de rezolvare a acestui gen de situa\u021bii \u0219i c\u0103 operatorii care r\u0103spund la solicit\u0103rile clien\u021bilor sunt destul de inteligen\u021bi pentru a rezolva respectivele solicit\u0103ri, sau cel pu\u021bin undeva \u00een spatele lor exist\u0103 cineva competent care s\u0103-i ajute dac\u0103 e nevoie.<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">De fapt, rezolvarea unei astfel de probleme nu ar trebui niciodat\u0103 s\u0103 dep\u0103\u0219easc\u0103 nivelul unei simple discu\u021bii telefonice \u00eencheiat\u0103 cu mul\u021bumirile celor dou\u0103 p\u0103r\u021bi.<br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\">Din p\u0103cate s-a dovedit c\u0103 nu este a\u0219a.<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font color=\"#000000\" face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/text-separator-22-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"240\" height=\"25\" title=\"text-separator-22\" style=\"border: 0px currentcolor; border-image: none; margin-right: auto; margin-left: auto; float: none; display: block; background-image: none;\" alt=\"text-separator-22\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/text-separator-22_thumb-2.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">La ora 18 Furnizorul constat\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een ciuda faptului c\u0103 eroarea a fost sesizat\u0103 celor dou\u0103 b\u0103nci, banii au intrat \u00een contul s\u0103u de la ING. <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Tensiunea \u00eei cre\u0219te p\u00e2n\u0103 la pragului unui infarct cerebral.<br \/>\n<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Face din nou o sesizare, \u00eenregistrat\u0103 cu num\u0103rul 141738, povestindu-I din nou \u00eentreaga \u00eent\u00e2mplare altui operator.<br \/>\nI se spune din nou c\u0103 dup\u0103 weekend, c\u00e2nd sesizarea f\u0103cut\u0103 de Client ajunge la ING Bank, treaba se rezolv\u0103.<font face=\"Arial\"><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Urmeaz\u0103 weekendul, iar \u00een urm\u0103toarea zi lucr\u0103toare Furnizorul observ\u0103 c\u0103 banii vira\u021bi gre\u0219it de c\u0103tre clientul s\u0103u sunt repartiza\u021bi c\u0103tre ANAF, deci, \u00een ciuda asigur\u0103rilor niciuna din cele dou\u0103 b\u0103nci nu au luat m\u0103suriel pe care trebuiau s\u0103 le ia.<font face=\"Arial\"><br \/>\nUrmeaz\u0103 o nou\u0103 sesizare, \u00eenregistrat\u0103 cu nr. 14158640, din nou Furnizorului se spune s\u0103 stea lini\u0219tit.<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">In urm\u0103toarea zi Clientul ia leg\u0103tura cu propria banc\u0103 \u0219i i se spune c\u0103 at\u00e2t el c\u00e2t \u0219i furnizorul vor trebui s\u0103 parcurg\u0103 un \u00eentreg co\u0219mar birocratic \u00een speran\u021ba c\u0103 cei de la ANAF vor \u00eenapoia c\u0103tre Client suma pl\u0103tit\u0103 gre\u0219it. Clientul \u00eei comunic\u0103 \u0219i Furnizorului despre ce ar trebui f\u0103cut.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Furnizorul, c\u0103ruia \u00eei curge deja s\u00e2nge din nas \u0219i din urechi din cauza tensiunii generate de incompeten\u021ba \u0219i tupeului de care d\u0103 dovad\u0103 personalul ING Bank, ia din nou leg\u0103tura cu aceast\u0103 banc\u0103. <\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">\u00cei r\u0103spunde un operator al c\u0103rui nume este L\u0103z\u0103rescu Bogdan, un monument de tupeism \u0219i lips\u0103 de bun sim\u021b.<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">Dup\u0103 ce i se repet\u0103 toat\u0103 povestea de dou\u0103 ori de c\u0103tre doi asocia\u021bi diferi\u021bi, dintre care unul \u00eei nu se mai poate ab\u021bine \u0219i \u00eei spune c\u0103 e idiot, iar cel\u0103lat e siderat \u0219i nu mai poate s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103, dup\u0103 ce i se cer date referitoare la numerele de \u00eenregistrare a sesiz\u0103rilor \u0219i numele operatorilor<font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font color=\"#ff0000\" face=\"Arial\"><strong>reprezentantul ING Bank le spune reprezentan\u021bilor Furnizorului c\u0103 dac\u0103 doreau s\u0103 rezolve situa\u021bia ar fi trebuit s\u0103 fac\u0103 o sesizare!<\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\">&#8211; P\u0103i nu v-am f\u0103cut, nu una ci 3 sesiz\u0103ri, dumneavoastr\u0103 ne-a\u021bi dat chiar acum numele operatorilor care le-au preluat \u0219i num\u0103rul de \u00eenregistrare al acestora?<\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><strong>&#8211; Da, dar chiar dac\u0103 a\u021bi f\u0103cut o sesizare noi nu suntem obliga\u021bi s\u0103-i d\u0103m curs, a fost r\u0103spunsul dat de reprezentantul ING Bank!<\/strong><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Kafka era un mic copil.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vineri Clientul solicit\u0103 Furnizorului o factur\u0103 proforma. 10 minute dup\u0103 aceea Clientul face plata proformei \u0219i trimite Furnizorului confirmarea pl\u0103\u021bii. Furnizorul verific\u0103 copia OP-ului \u0219i constat\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een loc de 260 de lei clientul K a pl\u0103tit 26000 de lei. In secunda 2 Furnizorul \u00eel anun\u021b\u0103 pe Client de eroarea comis\u0103 \u0219i \u00eei spune s\u0103 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5482","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5482","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5482"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5482\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5493,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5482\/revisions\/5493"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5482"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5482"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5482"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}