{"id":4644,"date":"2017-12-07T19:26:36","date_gmt":"2017-12-07T16:26:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/?p=4644"},"modified":"2017-12-08T10:03:44","modified_gmt":"2017-12-08T07:03:44","slug":"cum-s-ar-putea-norma-munca-unui-contabil-si-cum-am-putea-calcula-tarifele-pentru-acest-gen-de-servicii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/2017\/12\/07\/cum-s-ar-putea-norma-munca-unui-contabil-si-cum-am-putea-calcula-tarifele-pentru-acest-gen-de-servicii\/","title":{"rendered":"Cum s-ar putea &ldquo;norma&rdquo; munca unui contabil \u0219i cum am putea calcula care sunt tarifele corecte pentru acest gen de servicii"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Unii contabili cer mult, al\u021bii mai pu\u021bin, al\u021bii cer \u00een func\u021bei de c\u00e2t cer \u0219i notarii sau avoca\u021bii, consider\u00e2nd c\u0103 \u0219i munca lor este la fel de complex\u0103 cu a acestora. Unii cer \u00een functie de c\u00e2t c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 clientul, al\u021bii nu au nici o logic\u0103 \u00een tarifele pe care le cer,<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Eu cred c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd \u201cnorm\u0103m\u201d munca unui contabil nu ar trebui s\u0103 ne intereseze nici c\u00e2t c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 clientul, nici c\u00e2t c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 notarii ci ar trebui s\u0103 facem calculele pornijnd \u00een primul r\u00e2nd de la volumul de munc\u0103 depus.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Urm\u0103rind timp de proape 30 de ani cum lucreaz\u0103 o mul\u021bime de contabili, am constatat c\u0103 un contabil cu experien\u021b\u0103 poate procesa \u00eentr-o lun\u0103 documentele a maxim 5 firme cu c\u00e2te 150-200 documente, \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care se face o prelucrare \u201cnormal\u0103\u201d,<font face=\"Arial\"> f\u0103r\u0103 alte informa\u021bii sau situa\u021bii dec\u00e2t cele cerute de legisla\u021bia \u00een vigoare \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 a interveni evenimente deosebite de genul controalelor, ramburs\u0103ri de TVA etc<\/font>.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">Adic\u0103, un contabil care lucreaz\u0103 bine \u0219i atent va prelucra cel mult 1000 documente primare\/lun\u0103, ceea ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 un teanc gros de 10-12 cm cu facturi, chitan\u021be, extrase de cont \u0219i ce o mai fi acolo.<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/biblio.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"265\" title=\"biblio\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" alt=\"biblio\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/biblio_thumb.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\">Un document \u00eenseamn\u0103 exact ceea ce se in\u021belege, o factur\u0103, o chitan\u021b\u0103, un extras de cont etc. <\/font><font face=\"Arial\">O factur\u0103 este un document, un bon de cas\u0103 este un document.<br \/>Desigur c\u0103 unele documente sunt &#8220;mai mici&#8221;, altele con\u021bin mai multe opera\u021biuni, dar num\u0103rul de 150-200 documente este o medie pentru o lun\u0103.<br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">A face o firm\u0103 \u00eenseamn\u0103 a face tot ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 contabilitate, clientul \u00ee\u021bi aduce documentele primare nesortate \u00eentr-o pung\u0103 iar contabilul \u00eei pred\u0103 documentele \u00eendosariate, cu declara\u021bii \u0219i tot ce mai este necesar \u00een data de 30 a fiec\u0103rei luni. <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/DSC01689.jpg\"><font face=\"Arial\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"339\" title=\"DSC01689\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" alt=\"DSC01689\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/DSC01689_thumb.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/font><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/DSC01690.jpg\"><font face=\"Arial\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"339\" title=\"DSC01690\" style=\"display: inline; background-image: none;\" alt=\"DSC01690\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/DSC01690_thumb.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/font><\/a><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Stiu c\u0103 sunt contabili care fac \u0219i 100 de firme\/lun\u0103, pe col\u021bul mesei din buc\u0103t\u0103rie, dar aceia nu fac contabilitate, tot ce \u00eenseamn\u0103 mai mult de 1000 documente primare\/lun\u0103\/om \u00eenseamn\u0103 prostitu\u021bie \u0219i lucru prost f\u0103cut.<br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">In condi\u021bii normale de lucru \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 nici un fel de evaziune fiscal\u0103, nu recuper\u0103m dosarele vechi de la client \u0219i nici bibliorafturile, nici nu list\u0103m pe spatele hartiilor vechi (se mai \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103) cam jum\u0103tate din \u00eencas\u0103ri merg pe cheltuieli directe, consumabile, amortizare imprimanta&nbsp; \u0219i computer, curent, internet, telefon, softuri, h\u00e2rtie igienic\u0103, gunoi, ap\u0103, cafea \u0219i \u00eenc\u0103 1000 de alte m\u0103run\u021bi\u0219uri care sunt necesare pentru func\u021bionarea unei firme.<br \/>R\u0103m\u00e2ne cealalt\u0103 jum\u0103tate pentru salarii, jum\u0103tate din care ceva mai pu\u021bin de jum\u0103tate merge din nou la stat.<br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">In concluzie, \u00een condi\u021biile \u00een care nu se face nici un fel de evaziune iar lucr\u0103rile sunt f\u0103cute la calitate maxim\u0103, banii pe care-i lua\u021bi \u00een m\u00e2n\u0103 pentru munca dumneavoastr\u0103, s\u0103 spunem \u201csalariul net&#8221;, reprezint\u0103 cam 30%-35% din sumele \u00eencasate.<br \/>In acest moment pute\u021bi face calculul &#8220;\u00een sus&#8221;, pornind de la preten\u021biile dumneavoastr\u0103 de via\u021b\u0103: <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Dac\u0103 dori\u021bi s\u0103 r\u0103m\u00e2ne\u021bi cu 2000 lei\/lun\u0103, va trebui s\u0103 \u00eencasa\u021bi vreo 6000 lei, deci c\u00e2te 1200\/lun\u0103 de la fiecare firm\u0103 cu un num\u0103r de 200 documente\/lun\u0103. <\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Dac\u0103 vre\u021bi doar salariul minim va trebui s\u0103 \u00eencasa\u021bi vreo 600\/firm\u0103\/lun\u0103.<\/font><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/>Adic\u0103 vreo 3 lei\/document primar prelucrat.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Pornind de la cifrele de mai sus putem face \u0219i un alt calcul:<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">In condi\u021biile \u00een care un contabil este angajatul unei firme de contabilitate, care \u00eei pune la dispozi\u021bie tot suportul \u0219i logistica necesare, firm\u0103 care pe de o parte dore\u0219te s\u0103 fac\u0103 un mic profit iar pe de alt\u0103 parte firma va pl\u0103ti impozit pe venit\/profit \u0219i eventual impozit pe dividende, retribu\u021bia pe care o ia \u201c\u00een m\u00e2n\u0103\u201d contabilul angajat ar trebui s\u0103 fie de aproximativ 25% din suma \u00eencasat\u0103 de la client.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">Desigur putem s\u0103 lu\u0103m de la luntre \u0219i s\u0103 punem la punte, sc\u0103dem pre\u021bul\/document \u0219i lu\u0103m bani separat pentru bilan\u021b, calcul\u0103m pre\u021bul\/document \u00een func\u021bie de complexitatea acestuia, dar per total cam de aici ar trebui s\u0103 pornim.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\">In condi\u021biile \u00een care un contabil nu va putea prelucra un num\u0103r mai mare de documente dec\u00e2t cel luat \u00een calcul mai sus, ajungem la concluzia c\u0103 un tarif mai mic nu este posibil dec\u00e2t dac\u0103 sc\u0103dem sub limita acceptabil\u0103 calitatea serviciului prestat sau retribu\u021bia contabilului.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/text-separator-21-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"240\" height=\"79\" title=\"text-separator-21\" style=\"border: 0px currentcolor; border-image: none; margin-right: auto; margin-left: auto; float: none; display: block; background-image: none;\" alt=\"text-separator-21\" src=\"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/text-separator-21_thumb-3.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial\"><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><\/font><br \/><font face=\"Arial\">Mai r\u0103m\u00e2ne o singur\u0103 problem\u0103, clien\u021bii s\u0103 \u00ee\u0219i \u0219i permit\u0103 s\u0103 pl\u0103teasc\u0103 tariful cerut de contabil.<\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><font face=\"Arial\"><br \/><\/font><\/p>\n<p align=\"right\"><font face=\"Arial\"><em>Anton Kovacs<\/em><\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Unii contabili cer mult, al\u021bii mai pu\u021bin, al\u021bii cer \u00een func\u021bei de c\u00e2t cer \u0219i notarii sau avoca\u021bii, consider\u00e2nd c\u0103 \u0219i munca lor este la fel de complex\u0103 cu a acestora. Unii cer \u00een functie de c\u00e2t c\u00e2\u0219tig\u0103 clientul, al\u021bii nu au nici o logic\u0103 \u00een tarifele pe care le cer, Eu cred c\u0103 atunci [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4644","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-contabilitate"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4644","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4644"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4644\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4652,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4644\/revisions\/4652"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4644"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4644"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/infokam.eu\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4644"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}